This week Erin interviews Gavin Verhey, a designer at Wizards of the Coast.

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The Cast:

• Erin Campbell – @OriginalOestrus – Host of The Deck Tease
• Gavin Verhey – @gavinverhey – Game Designer at Wizards of the Coast