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This Week in Twitter – 5/5-5/11

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This week in Twitter, the public saw a pretty big swing in conversations—from the usual NPH and bannings we have been seeing, to a few announcements directly from Wizards of the Coast themselves.

The first major announcement was within Mark Rosewater’s article this week involving the reprint of Jace, the Mind Sculptor. He was quoted as saying, “But he’s about to rotate and he won’t be coming back.”

@GatheringMagic GatheringMagic.com: @maro254 – Can you confirm the statement about JTMS rotating? http://bit.ly/m95viw

I have yet to see the official confirmation, but may have missed it among the flurry of Tweets on the subject. This also appears to mean Jace won’t be receiving the ban hammer and will be sculpting the format until rotation later this year.

Another huge WotC statement was announced involving the extension of National Qualifiers on ratings until the end of this month.

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: Trying to qualify for Nationals off rating? You may have more time than you thought! Don’t miss this announcement: http://bit.ly/jcLGu3

This announcement had a mix of responses and was actually the source of my main topic today involving ratings and qualifying for events. Though some were, I’m sure, happy to hear this, since this gives them some extra time to grind those last few points, just as many were frustrated by the announcement.

@mtgaaron Aaron Forsythe: We’re very aware of all these ratings problems, particularly the “don’t play” issue. Sadly, changes in this area will be slow to implement.

@kellyreid Kelly Reid: @thepchapin @GavinVerhey @misterorange surely there’s a solution that allows people to earn points without risking LOSING a Q they “earned”

As Aaron stated, the issue of not being able to play if one doesn’t want to risk one’s rating is a major factor for some people. I have heard this sentiment echoed through Twitter, and have seen some people announcing that they could not play in Grand Prix: Providence due to this.

@kellyreid Kelly Reid: @misterorange why would WOTC encourage a system that discourages good players from playing Magic?

@manadeprived Kar Yung Tom: Pushing Nats rating deadline? Making many of my friends skip Providence? Out with the rating system, Wizards. Someone needs to fix this.

After a lot of discussion, it was finally agreed that something needed to change and, as Aaron stated, the process would be slow. There were some great ideas among some of the larger names in Magic that seemed to be some solid solutions for the growing problem.

@bmkibler Brian Kibler: Even with ELO, ratings invites can be improved. Make it a threshold that you have to hit over a time period rather than locking on a date.

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: @misterorange @blisterguy @bmkibler What if rating was kind of like pro level, in that your highest one in the year was what was looked at?

@misterorange Evan Erwin: As mentioned to @GavinVerhey and @kellyreid, having a 30-day ‘rating window’ where your highest rating counts, would be a welcome change.

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: Why do rating systems have to have negatives? Can systems that only move up exist? What if you earned points you could spend on byes instead?

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: @bmkibler @psotto So then, why not replace ELO with a system that accomplishes the new goal better? (Or accomplishes the old goal better.)

With a multitude of ideas being thrown around, it seems that the general consensus was that a “window” would be the best way to allow players to maintain byes and qualifiers while not forcing them to stop playing Magic for a month before each event.

The flaws in the current system seem to revolve around variance and luck rather than an actual issue with the rating itself. Unlike chess, Magic has factors other than skill involved, so to base it off the ELO system is somewhat flawed in and of itself.

@bmkibler Brian Kibler: @kellyreid @misterorange @GavinVerhey ELO is flawed for Magic because it doesn’t accurately describe the odds of each outcome like for chess

@kellyreid Kelly Reid: @bmkibler @misterorange @GavinVerhey chess has zero variance, which is why ELO works so nicely. what’s the alternative, brian?

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: @rtassicker @ahalavais Because the goal (though it doesn’t work well with ELO now) is to make your rating accurately represent your skill.

@GavinVerhey Gavin Verhey: Amidst all of this ratings system talk, I’ll put it out there that one of the things I hate is how nontransparent ELO is to a new player.

The other ideas seemed sound in theory, but each was shot down as its flaws were revealed. The current system seems to work for now, but needs a major overhaul in the near future.

@thepchapin Patrick Chapin: @GavinVerhey @misterorange You do realize many MORE people play BECAUSE events give DCI Points, than sit out for that same reason, right?

@ahalavais Arthur Halavais: @GavinVerhey @misterorange @blisterguy @bmkibler Moving away from ELO has the issue that it starts rewarding things other than play skill.

@Smi77y J smitty: @GavinVerhey systems that only move up are flawed. See xbox live leaderboards. Whoever plays most wins.

@SamuelHBlack Sam Black: @GavinVerhey dreamblade rating system is good at encouraging play, but does solve @PVDDR’s complaint about wanting a real ranking system.

The debate seemed to die off after hours of talk on the subject, which, surprisingly, didn’t turn humorous at any point. They were all business on the topic of ratings, and rightfully so, as for some of these guys, this is their business.

There was a solid recommendation among all the debating that I found worthy of note. If you have your rating locked in but don’t want to risk the FNM grind, perhaps helping at your local shop can be a good alternative.

@blisterguy Ray Walkinshaw: have a high rating you want to sit on and want to support your local store? Offer to Judge or mentor new players

To wrap up the ratings debate, I think it’s important for people to understand how the system works and where the flaws lie. For that, Star City Games has written a pretty comprehensive article involving the current rating system.

@ahalavais Arthur Halavais: If you are curious about how ratings work in #MTG, check out this rough guide from SCG: http://bit.ly/lBoWWl

Well, before I depart for the week, there are two more small things worth mentioning. As I discussed last week, the pros seem to be on a weight-loss kick, and it seems some of them are really serious.

@bmkibler Brian Kibler: @Conley81 I didnt weigh in for the first two weeks, so I don’t know for sure - I was 210-215 when I first weighed in and 190-195 now

I also spoke to Conley Woods while getting my face smashed in by one of the best Necrotic Oozes I have ever seen in a limited game, and he said he was down about ten pounds himself.

@Perfect_Beanis: LADIES ---call me Trickle Down Economics because I don’t work, I favor rich whites, and I’m responsible for the deaths of countless homeless

@Perfect_Beanis: LADIES --- call me HTML4 For Dummies because I’m at the library and no one has checked me out for about seven years

I’m unsure where these posts started, but Lan D Ho was re-Tweeting them sporadically, and some of them are actually hilarious. Nerd humor at its best, and a welcome addition to this week of serious talk and debate.

Well, that’s all we have for this week on the topic of reprints and ratings. Join me next week to see where the Tweets take us; until then, keep on Tweeting!

Ryan Bushard

@CryppleCommand on Twitter

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